Objections to veganism are just excuses

October 27, 2010

OK, the analogy I use in this video is, as they say, “a wee bit off-side,” but I think it makes the point pretty well.  When someone says they can’t be vegan because of [insert reason here], it’s really important to remember that they haven’t rejected veganism; they’ve just given you an excuse.

Tomorrow, we’re going to cover an actual response to this kind of excuse – it’s all part of outreach week here at Staying Vegan, and hopefully this is way different (and way better) than you thought it was going to be when we started back on Monday!

What do you think?  When someone says something other than “no,” are they just being polite or do you (now) believe that you’ve got an opening?  Let’s talk it out in the comments!

{ 5 comments… read them below or add one }

Erin October 27, 2010 at 11:49 pm

You know, I don’t need that machine because I’m a woman… Teee heee… It’s funny that you should mention this, because I’m a horrible people pleaser and HATE to say no, so I tend to give excuses. Then I get so uncomfortable when salespeople (or friends trying to talk me into something) continue to sell. Because I feel that way personally, when I hear excuses that’s usually the end of the conversation for me.

However, I also do tend to keep going with my sales pitch when people bring up difficulty or money as their excuse because I feel veganism is cheaper and easier than being an omnivore. When people say they can’t give up X I tend to just peg them as selfish and unreasonable, so I don’t continue the conversation. The middle ground excuses though, I take as a polite way of saying I don’t want to discuss this further (ex: I would be vegan, but our wild Alaskan fish is caught sustainably and I feel the environmental impact is the greatest factor in my diet).

Amanda October 28, 2010 at 12:59 am

Way to get people’s attention with a reference to penis removal. My husband was in the next room and heard that comment, then came walking in saying, “I just heard “penis” and “remove” in the same sentence, and that frightens me”.

I had a woman I work with say she could never go vegan because her “body craves meat” and she “gets sweaty and shaky if she hasn’t had meat all day and becomes boarderline anemic”. I let her know that she should see a doctor, because nobody on this planet should “need meat”. I explained that I get plenty of iron as a vegan because it’s in so many plants, such as spinach! She still seemed pretty set in her ways about it, so I left her alone…then sent her multiple emails for meat-alternative recipes from vegweb. Hope she tries one at least. Because seriously, who the heck “needs meat?”

Erin October 28, 2010 at 2:34 am

As far as need goes, that totally reminds me of a conversation I had with someone about coffee. I said that I have a hard time getting through the day, and although I know it’s not good for me, it’s hard to imagine giving it up. She persisted that in time it gets easier and that your body will actually be so much healthier without it that those unhealthy cravings and feelings of tiredness will go away. There are so many things we tell ourselves we “need” because we want them even though we know they hurt us.

Colleen October 28, 2010 at 6:38 pm

In my experience, most people aren’t comfortable enough with confrontation or social awkwardness to say anything like “Screw that, I would never go vegan!” Saying they couldn’t go vegan because of X is a way to save face – for them and for us. And I’m not certain that not allowing someone to save face is good for veganism in the long run…but I’m interested to hear what you’ll propose tomorrow. 🙂 You usually surprise me with where you take things.

Jason October 28, 2010 at 10:32 pm

“You usually surprise me with where you take things,” she says, in a post that refers to penis removal…

I’m not sure about the saving face part – I thought about it, but in a lot of discussions I’ve had it’s often a whole new idea for the other party (many people, sadly, have never met a vegan before,) and I believe they’re tending towards the natural inclination to avoid change, so an objection/excuse comes up. How hard we go after that excuse is another story, but I talk a bit about that in the next video, so let’s avoid spoilers, yo.

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