Comments on: Word of the year: carnist http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/word-of-the-year-carnist/ Tips and tricks for the rest of your life Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:24:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: C Kane http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/word-of-the-year-carnist/comment-page-1/#comment-684 C Kane Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:19:54 +0000 http://stayingvegan.com/?p=1052305524#comment-684 "I don't know who discovered water, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a fish." -- Marshall McLuhan (1911-1980) It's so true that what is everywhere becomes, so often entirely invisible to us, and often also nameless, so folks don't even think about it, much less think about alternatives, whether it's what we eat or social, political, or economic or culture.. Mostly unrelated but just found this AR angle from the Onion http://www.theonion.com/articles/children-of-all-ages-delighted-by-enslavement-of-t,17534/ “I don’t know who discovered water, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a fish.” — Marshall McLuhan (1911-1980)

It’s so true that what is everywhere becomes, so often entirely invisible to us, and often also nameless, so folks don’t even think about it, much less think about alternatives, whether it’s what we eat or social, political, or economic or culture..

Mostly unrelated but just found this AR angle from the Onion
http://www.theonion.com/articles/children-of-all-ages-delighted-by-enslavement-of-t,17534/

]]> By: tomb7890 http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/word-of-the-year-carnist/comment-page-1/#comment-663 tomb7890 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:49 +0000 http://stayingvegan.com/?p=1052305524#comment-663 Maybe what Joy's book has most to offer a vegan is her empathic analysis of the meat eater. It can be easy to fall into corrosive negativity when all around us animals are being eaten with such commitment and in such numbers. How easy to forget that I was participating with as much gusto as anyone for most of my life, and quite happy about it. Thanks Jason. Maybe what Joy’s book has most to offer a vegan is her
empathic analysis of the meat eater. It can be easy to fall into
corrosive negativity when all around us animals are being eaten with
such commitment and in such numbers. How easy to forget that I was
participating with as much gusto as anyone for most of my life, and
quite happy about it. Thanks Jason.

]]> By: Jason http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/word-of-the-year-carnist/comment-page-1/#comment-659 Jason Mon, 31 May 2010 19:16:15 +0000 http://stayingvegan.com/?p=1052305524#comment-659 Colleen, a lot of that stuff gets addressed, and it's fascinating stuff that I think is well handled. I could make some guesses about how the merging of the psych and the AR is supposed to work out and who it's for, but they'd just be guesses, and that didn't seem right somehow - it just didn't mesh for me, is all, but the seeds in the book are hopefully going to make some mighty trees later on! Colleen, a lot of that stuff gets addressed, and it’s fascinating stuff that I think is well handled. I could make some guesses about how the merging of the psych and the AR is supposed to work out and who it’s for, but they’d just be guesses, and that didn’t seem right somehow – it just didn’t mesh for me, is all, but the seeds in the book are hopefully going to make some mighty trees later on!

]]> By: Colleen http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/word-of-the-year-carnist/comment-page-1/#comment-658 Colleen Mon, 31 May 2010 17:11:03 +0000 http://stayingvegan.com/?p=1052305524#comment-658 Books that claim to be about psychology and then focus on other things always make me wonder whether or not the writer actually has a fully fledged idea in the first place. With meat-eating, or any eating generally, we're dealing with what is either essentially lower-brain stem stuff or childhood stuff - both very difficult either to change or even explain. How do you use words to discuss the pre-verbal or the sub-verbal anyway? As for the word carnist, I like it and think I'll try using it too. And when anyone asks, I'll have Joy's nice, succinct description above. I wonder how many carnists will be caught up short by it. Books that claim to be about psychology and then focus on other things always make me wonder whether or not the writer actually has a fully fledged idea in the first place. With meat-eating, or any eating generally, we’re dealing with what is either essentially lower-brain stem stuff or childhood stuff – both very difficult either to change or even explain. How do you use words to discuss the pre-verbal or the sub-verbal anyway?

As for the word carnist, I like it and think I’ll try using it too. And when anyone asks, I’ll have Joy’s nice, succinct description above. I wonder how many carnists will be caught up short by it.

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