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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-2916</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, according to Jack Norris&#039;s website he references this VitaShine company: http://www.vitashine-d3.com/vitashine.html

Apparently they are making D3 vegan through Lichen.  It&#039;s supposedly got a seal of approval from Vegan Society and council.  Sounds like it might be worth a shot, and the price seems right.  However, to me it seems too good to be true.  

On another note, I always look forward to the sun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, according to Jack Norris&#8217;s website he references this VitaShine company: <a href="http://www.vitashine-d3.com/vitashine.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vitashine-d3.com/vitashine.html</a></p>
<p>Apparently they are making D3 vegan through Lichen.  It&#8217;s supposedly got a seal of approval from Vegan Society and council.  Sounds like it might be worth a shot, and the price seems right.  However, to me it seems too good to be true.  </p>
<p>On another note, I always look forward to the sun!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carmen, thanks for proofreading!  I mention sources at the top of the article: &quot;Everything that looks like science in this article came via guidance from the National Institutes of Health in the USA and Health Canada, and I encourage you to follow those two links for the current state of vitamin D recommendations.&quot;

Since this article was posted, the Health Canada link has changed (I&#039;ve updated it,) and they now appear to recommend supplementation for all breastfed infants.  Keep in mind that their advice is geared towards a Canadian audience where sunlight is less intense.  The current recommendation, as pulled from the Health Canada page, is that &quot;It is recommended that the vitamin D supplement be started at birth and continue until the baby&#039;s diet includes at least 10 µg (400 IU) per day of vitamin D from other dietary sources or until the breastfed infant reaches one year of age.&quot;  Furthermore, &quot;Studies suggest that vitamin D stores are depleted within eight weeks of birth in breastfed infants who do not receive a vitamin D supplement and who are born to mothers with adequate vitamin D stores&quot; and I hope this sufficiently backs up the section you&#039;re referring to (which, again, had sources mentioned earlier, but they were not directly footnoted at the point of mention in my post, and I apologize for the confusion!)

I&#039;d love to have more information on breastfeeding listed here, but the simple fact is that I was unable to find much in the form of solid research.  Most of the vitamin D research I&#039;ve seen still focuses on preventing rickets, and while the medical community is developing more knowledge on other benefits of D, the recommendations, particularly for infants, tend to be based on expert opinion and not evidence-based studies.  There are ethical considerations that make it difficult to have a control-based study of infant nutrition, but it&#039;s frustrating just the same!

And for the record, we&#039;re huge fans of breastfeeding here, having exclusively breastfed our son for the past 12 weeks.  I&#039;d love to write more, but I&#039;m trying hard not to flood the internets with links to half-baked articles that just happen to support my personal theories - there&#039;s enough of that going around.  Breastfeeding is recommended by most if not all health organizations as the best way to raise an infant if at all possible, but I don&#039;t know what else I could say about it in an article about D other than &quot;if you&#039;re breastfeeding, supplementation is recommended.&quot;  If you have suggestions, I&#039;m more than happy to receive them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carmen, thanks for proofreading!  I mention sources at the top of the article: &#8220;Everything that looks like science in this article came via guidance from the National Institutes of Health in the USA and Health Canada, and I encourage you to follow those two links for the current state of vitamin D recommendations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since this article was posted, the Health Canada link has changed (I&#8217;ve updated it,) and they now appear to recommend supplementation for all breastfed infants.  Keep in mind that their advice is geared towards a Canadian audience where sunlight is less intense.  The current recommendation, as pulled from the Health Canada page, is that &#8220;It is recommended that the vitamin D supplement be started at birth and continue until the baby&#8217;s diet includes at least 10 µg (400 IU) per day of vitamin D from other dietary sources or until the breastfed infant reaches one year of age.&#8221;  Furthermore, &#8220;Studies suggest that vitamin D stores are depleted within eight weeks of birth in breastfed infants who do not receive a vitamin D supplement and who are born to mothers with adequate vitamin D stores&#8221; and I hope this sufficiently backs up the section you&#8217;re referring to (which, again, had sources mentioned earlier, but they were not directly footnoted at the point of mention in my post, and I apologize for the confusion!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have more information on breastfeeding listed here, but the simple fact is that I was unable to find much in the form of solid research.  Most of the vitamin D research I&#8217;ve seen still focuses on preventing rickets, and while the medical community is developing more knowledge on other benefits of D, the recommendations, particularly for infants, tend to be based on expert opinion and not evidence-based studies.  There are ethical considerations that make it difficult to have a control-based study of infant nutrition, but it&#8217;s frustrating just the same!</p>
<p>And for the record, we&#8217;re huge fans of breastfeeding here, having exclusively breastfed our son for the past 12 weeks.  I&#8217;d love to write more, but I&#8217;m trying hard not to flood the internets with links to half-baked articles that just happen to support my personal theories &#8211; there&#8217;s enough of that going around.  Breastfeeding is recommended by most if not all health organizations as the best way to raise an infant if at all possible, but I don&#8217;t know what else I could say about it in an article about D other than &#8220;if you&#8217;re breastfeeding, supplementation is recommended.&#8221;  If you have suggestions, I&#8217;m more than happy to receive them!</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. I have only just stumbled across your site and already you have completely lost me with this:-

Will breastfeeding supply vitamin D?
Vitamin D does exist in breast milk for mothers with adequate levels themselves, but it’s not considered enough to meet the daily recommended levels. On a semi-related note, your baby may have some vitamin D on backup from what it got through the placenta while in the womb, but this usually is only enough for a few months at most.

No sources cited? At all? And only one brief paragraph on breastfeeding when talking about needs of a new born infant?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. I have only just stumbled across your site and already you have completely lost me with this:-</p>
<p>Will breastfeeding supply vitamin D?<br />
Vitamin D does exist in breast milk for mothers with adequate levels themselves, but it’s not considered enough to meet the daily recommended levels. On a semi-related note, your baby may have some vitamin D on backup from what it got through the placenta while in the womb, but this usually is only enough for a few months at most.</p>
<p>No sources cited? At all? And only one brief paragraph on breastfeeding when talking about needs of a new born infant?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The space has been added by our Master spacemaker!  Thanks for the heads up on KAL, I&#039;ll have to look into those!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The space has been added by our Master spacemaker!  Thanks for the heads up on KAL, I&#8217;ll have to look into those!</p>
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		<title>By: Marika</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Marika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to use the link above to the chewable D2 tablets, copy it minus the closing bracket at the end (that right &#039;)&#039; bracket is not part of the link and it&#039;s messing it up!)...or Jason, feel free to edit my comment above and put a space between that last &#039;4&#039; and the closing &#039;)&#039; beside it, thanks! Then it should work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to use the link above to the chewable D2 tablets, copy it minus the closing bracket at the end (that right &#8216;)&#8217; bracket is not part of the link and it&#8217;s messing it up!)&#8230;or Jason, feel free to edit my comment above and put a space between that last &#8217;4&#8242; and the closing &#8216;)&#8217; beside it, thanks! Then it should work <img src='http://stayingvegan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marika</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Marika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently using a chewable (natural peppermint flavour) version of D2, made under the KAL label by Nutraceutical (you can see it here: http://kalvitamin.com/search/view_product.cfm?product_index=7141054 ). I paid about $8 (north of Toronto) for a bottle of 100 (1000 IU) tablets. I&#039;ll be checking out the liquid stuff though - thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently using a chewable (natural peppermint flavour) version of D2, made under the KAL label by Nutraceutical (you can see it here: <a href="http://kalvitamin.com/search/view_product.cfm?product_index=7141054" rel="nofollow">http://kalvitamin.com/search/view_product.cfm?product_index=7141054</a> ). I paid about $8 (north of Toronto) for a bottle of 100 (1000 IU) tablets. I&#8217;ll be checking out the liquid stuff though &#8211; thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 13:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to tell you guys... I talked to one of the sales reps of D drops at the baby time show (ddrops.ca) and although he said they only make a D3 version right now, he told me that they were soon coming out with a D2 version.  I told him that I was very eager for the D2 version to come out &amp; made it clear I had no interest in his product until it was not made with animal products, so hopefully, a few of us expressing that message to the sales reps will get them to start creating a vegan version.  We&#039;ll see!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to tell you guys&#8230; I talked to one of the sales reps of D drops at the baby time show (ddrops.ca) and although he said they only make a D3 version right now, he told me that they were soon coming out with a D2 version.  I told him that I was very eager for the D2 version to come out &amp; made it clear I had no interest in his product until it was not made with animal products, so hopefully, a few of us expressing that message to the sales reps will get them to start creating a vegan version.  We&#8217;ll see!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 11:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sarah - I&#039;m trying to space out the nutrition stuff, but it&#039;s something we&#039;ll want to investigate at some point in the near future.  My early research suggests that unlike D, B12 is available through breast milk, and it seems like it&#039;s sufficient (at least, at this point I haven&#039;t seen anything saying it&#039;s not) but the available levels are more related to the mother&#039;s current intake than it is what&#039;s stored in her body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sarah &#8211; I&#8217;m trying to space out the nutrition stuff, but it&#8217;s something we&#8217;ll want to investigate at some point in the near future.  My early research suggests that unlike D, B12 is available through breast milk, and it seems like it&#8217;s sufficient (at least, at this point I haven&#8217;t seen anything saying it&#8217;s not) but the available levels are more related to the mother&#8217;s current intake than it is what&#8217;s stored in her body.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Maydom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Maydom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any supplements at all, I recommend iherb.com (USA), it&#039;s really cheap and gets here super fast. We were buying the NowFoods vitamin D v-caps but now get the Country Life vitamin D tablets, a bit cheaper. Currently I am relying on my 7 month old daughter getting her vit D from breastmilk (my levels tested OK) but once I start weaning we will expose her to some sunlight every day and in winter add some ground tablet to her food. We will also add ground B12 to her food, and on that note I would like to mention that it really worries me that some vegan parents are not supplementing their children&#039;s diet with B12. I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any supplements at all, I recommend iherb.com (USA), it&#8217;s really cheap and gets here super fast. We were buying the NowFoods vitamin D v-caps but now get the Country Life vitamin D tablets, a bit cheaper. Currently I am relying on my 7 month old daughter getting her vit D from breastmilk (my levels tested OK) but once I start weaning we will expose her to some sunlight every day and in winter add some ground tablet to her food. We will also add ground B12 to her food, and on that note I would like to mention that it really worries me that some vegan parents are not supplementing their children&#8217;s diet with B12. I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://stayingvegan.com/2010/05/vitamin-d-for-vegan-raised-infants/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 18:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jodie, I&#039;ve updated the post with the info!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jodie, I&#8217;ve updated the post with the info!</p>
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